A transcript of a telephonic conversation between Sajid Majeed alias Sajid Mir alias Wasi alias Ibrahim and an unnamed terrorist during the November 2008 terrorist attack on Mumbai, was released by United States Attorney's Office for the Northern District of Illinois in connection with the 26/11 Mumbai Attacks trial against Tahawwur Hussain Rana.
The terrorist along with this associate, Umar, had taken a hostage and Wasi is instructing them on how to kill the hostage.
Wasi, 35, is considered a close Associate of Lashkar leader Zaki-ur-Rehman Lakhvi, Abu Qahafa, Abu Anas and Muzzammill Butt.
Complete text of the transcript:
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[Beginning of Audio Session]
UM2: Peace be upon you.
[Pause]
UM2: Hello.
[Pause]
UM2: --hello.
Wasi: How are you?
UM2: Doing well.
Wasi: What are the conditions, brother?
UM2: It's normal at our end for the time being.
Wasi: Is there any firing?
UM2: No. not towards us.
Wasi: Can you hear any voices besides ours?
UM2: Uh-uh.
Wasi: Um-hum. Do you see any movement?
UM2: All the lights are off near us
Wasi: What?
UM2: The lights of the surrounding area are completely off.
Wasi: The lights were off before too, right?
UM2: At first, just ours were but I opened fire on the sides yesterday.
Wasi: Hmm.
UM2: So today
Wasi: [OV] So now- -now they have cui off lights to the whole area?
UM2: No, no, just our lights Went off yesterday [UI]
Wasi: Um-hum
UM2: Yesterday, I--
Wasi: [OV] Okay.
UM2: --I opened fire on people watching from the windows. Many were hit. They were screaming; their voices could be heard. So today people have turned off the lights [UI]
Wasi: Okay. [Pause] What is Umar [PH] doing?
UM2: I just put Umar to sleep. I told him to lie down for an hour.
Wasi: Okay, that's good. Also, discuss this among yourselves; if you are going to walk ahead, whenever you guys move, and if Umar is going to walk at the rear, then he should know that as soon as you guys switch places, or any difñculty comes up, the guy at the rear should finish off the hostage, if the guy in front can not do so.
UM2: Allah willing, Allah willing. No actually-
Wasi: [OV] And the rest...
UM2: --my own planning [sic] is that if any ñring takes p1ace, we will clear it.
Wasi: Yes. Hold on one minute.
[Multiple voices in the background on Wasi's side]
Wasi: [Talking to individuals in the background] Should they keep the hostages or kill them?
UM1: [UM1 in the background to Wasi] [UI] kill them.
Wasi: [Wasi to UM2] Okay, listen.
UM2: Yes, yes.
Wasi: Uh, get rid of them right now. Rid yourself of them, friend.
[Multiple voices in the background on Wasi's side]
Wasi: The assault will start at any time, and they will be left behind.
UM2: No, Allah willing, at the moment, there is no movement by me.
[Multiple voices in the background on Wasi's side]
Wasi: Behind them--
UM2: [OV] [UI]
Wasi:_--after approaching them from behind... after agproaching them from behind, place the barrel on the backside of their heads and fire.
UM2: Allah willing, I will do it just like that.
Wasi: Allright?
UM2: Don't worry; my personal program is that as soon as some firing starts--
[Multiple voices in the background on Wasí's side]
Wasi: [SC] Huh?
[Multiple voices in the background on Wasi's side]
UM2: As soon as some firing starts...
[Multiple voices in the background on Wasi's side]
Wasi: Yeah... No, no, friend, don't wait [Pause] You know, when the, uh, firing starts you won't know how it will happen and with what intensity, so instead of waiting, you should place them in such a way that the bullet doesn't repel [sic] against the facing Wall and ricochet towards you. It should hit the glass outside or go in the air or go into a wall outside, something like that.
[Multiple voices in the background on Wasi's side]
Wasi: Or in the door and such... So do this task now.
UM2: Allah willing, Allah willing.
Wasi: I will hold, okay?
[Pause]
[Voice in the background on Wasi's side]
Wasi: Are you doing it?
UM2: Hello.
Wasi: Do it, do it. I said, I'm listening, do it.
UM2: Should we open fire?
Wasi: Yeah, do it. Make him sit, have him face the front and place it on the back side of his head. then shoot.
UM2: Actually, I just put Umar to sleep. I was thinking that perhaps let him sleep for a little bit, since he wasn't feeling well.
[Wasi to UM1 in background]
Wasi: [Wasi to UM2] one minute, one minute.
Wasi: [Wasi to UM1 in background] Umar is asleep, and he will awaken. He just fell asleep [UI]
[Pause]
[Wasíand UM1 talking in background]
Wasi: [Wasi to UM2] Listen.
UM2: Brother Wasi, as soon as [UI]
Wasi: I will... I will wait and call you again after half an hour. You do it then, alright?
UM2: I am telling you that as soon as we stand up-we will [UI] --
[UM1 in background on Wasi's side]
UM2: Then Allah willing--
Wasi: [OV] Hmm.
UM2: --after we are all done here [UI]
Wasi: No, friend, it's no use, it's just tension for no reason, we will Worry, and your attention will be divided also. Since Umar is sleeping, its better that in half hour... or if Umar wakes up before that, then just do it at that time without waiting for me and if he doesn't wake up, I will call you again in half an hour, Allah Willing, do it then.
UM2: Okay, whatever you think is best.
[Background Noise]
Wasi: You know, w-w-whenever, uh, the Army attacks; they try to exert the maximum force. The biggest reason for using that force is that one doesn't get a chance to fight back. You will get busy in the fight, and from the back, they... Okay, even if you do it, you will have to go through a lot of tension and deal with a lot of anxiety. So it's better to rid yourself of this. It's a task, I mean, there is much to gain from it. So if that is left undone, then what's the use? That's the thing.
UM2: Allah willing.
Wasi: What?
UM2: Allah willing, Allah willing.
Wasi: So-so, I will in a little bit... Whenever I call you again, then, Allah willing, you do it.
UM2: Yeah. Let brother Umar relax a little bit then Allah willing--
Wasi: I will call you again in a little while, okay?
UM2: Right, right. Peace be upon you.
Wasi: Recite your prayers, my brother.
UM2: Allah willing, Allah willing. Peace be upon you.
[End of Audio Session]
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